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Place Bet vs. Come Bet in Craps: Which Fits Your Goal?

Come bet · Place bet · True Odds · Exposure timing

A Place bet gives you immediate control over a chosen box number. A Come bet begins as a new Pass Line contract and may travel to a random point, where true Odds can be added. Neither is universally “better”: the Come has the lower mathematical cost, while the Place bet offers more control and flexibility.

The short comparison

Use Come when you want Pass Line mathematics after the main point and are willing to accept whichever number travels. Use Place when you want a specific number, immediate action, and the ability to call the bet off, reduce it, or remove it.

FeatureCome betPlace bet
First roll7/11 wins; 2/3/12 loses; box number travelsChosen number is already established
Number selectionDetermined by the rollChosen by the player
Flat-bet edgeAbout 1.41%1.52% on 6/8, 4.00% on 5/9, 6.67% on 4/10
Additional wagerTrue Odds after it travelsNo true-Odds add-on; Buy may improve 4/10
Can flat bet be removed?No, after acceptedNormally yes
Come-out statusTraveled flat bet remains workingCommonly off unless called working

The old two-hit example, corrected

The original page compared a $5 Come bet that traveled to 4 with $10 Odds against a $15 Place 4. If 4 repeats before 7, the Come contract earns $5 on the flat bet and $20 on Odds: $25 profit. A $15 Place 4 earns $27 per hit, so two 4s collect $54; if a later 7 removes the still-working $15 bet, the net sequence profit is $39.

That does not prove Place is better. The comparison gives the Place bet two winning decisions, starts the Come bet one roll earlier, and compares different amounts and periods of exposure. It also ignores the Come bet’s 7/11 wins before traveling. A fair comparison must include every possible first roll and measure expected cost per resolved contract or per dollar wagered.

Expected cost in dollars

A $5 Come flat bet has about $0.071 expected loss per resolved contract. The true-Odds portion adds volatility but no expected loss. A $15 Place 4 has $1 expected loss each time 4-versus-7 resolves. The Place bet can collect repeatedly before one 7, but every new resolution carries the same 6.67% edge.

Working on the next come-out

A traveled Come flat bet is a contract bet and normally remains working when the puck turns off. Come Odds are commonly off unless called working; if off, they are returned or unaffected by the come-out result. Place bets are commonly off. House procedures vary, so confirm the status before the dice move.

Choose by the job you need done

  • Lower expected cost: Come with an affordable amount of Odds.
  • Specific 6 or 8: Place offers immediate, removable action at a relatively low edge.
  • Specific 4 or 10: Compare Place with a Buy bet under the actual commission rule.
  • Strict exposure cap: Place is easier to call off or remove; Come flat bets remain contracts.
  • Simple layout: One Come bet at a time is easier to track than several traveling positions.

The reader counterargument worth preserving

A 2013 reader response correctly argued that one or two Come contracts can keep total exposure below a layout covering most box numbers. That is a budgeting advantage of the chosen layout, not proof from the reader’s four winning sessions. Compare the actual flat bets, Odds, and maximum simultaneous loss rather than counting how many numbers appear covered.

The reader also used an Any Craps “crap check” to hedge each Come entry. At a common 7-to-1 payout, that proposition carries an 11.11% edge. It can offset the Come loss on 2, 3, or 12, but it loses on every 7, 11, and traveling box number. The hedge changes individual outcomes while adding a high-cost wager; it does not improve the Come bet.

Read the complete Come bet guide, Place bet guide, and true Odds guide before combining them.

Reviewed by Sam: I moved from Come-heavy play toward more Place bets because I valued control and removability. That is a playing preference, not evidence that Place bets have better mathematics.

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2 Comments

  1. There’s something you are missing–

    When you make the come bet, you will win on an initial 7 or 11. Your place bet will lose on the 7.

    That, and the fact that the place bet odds have a bigger house edge than your come net odds (which have a house edge of ZERO) make the come a better play.

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